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Who's funding the businesses banks won't touch? 🏦 Kyle Lovell, Chief Lending Officer at Business Impact Northwest, breaks down how CDFIs actually work, why merchant cash advances are a trap, and where fintech can step in to close the gap. Full episode on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. 🎙️ 🔗 businessimpactnw.org #fintechmarketing #bankingpodcast #fintechpodcast #smallbusiness #communitybanking #CDFI #fintech #lending

CDFIs don't get nearly enough credit in the fintech conversation. They're filling a gap the traditional financial system either can't fill or won't, and they're doing it with cobbled-together technology that was never built for them. In this episode, Roland sits down with Kyle Lovell, Chief Lending Officer at Business Impact Northwest, for a ground-level look at how CDFIs actually operate, where they fit in the broader lending ecosystem, and why the technology gap inside these organizations is one of the most underexplored partnership opportunities in fintech right now. Guest Kyle Lovell, Chief Lending Officer, Business Impact Northwest businessimpactnw.org What We Cover • [0:00] What CDFIs are and how they fit into the financial ecosystem alongside banks, credit unions, and fintechs • [3:22] Why CDFIs view themselves as a stepping stone, not a forever lender, and what that means for their bank and credit union partnerships • [4:17] How CDFI underwriting differs from traditional lending, including approving borrowers with sub-600 credit scores by weighing the full picture rather than requiring strength across all five C's of credit • [6:43] The speed problem: CDFIs personalize every loan decision, and that takes time. Where fintech can help close that gap • [13:23] How Business Impact NW funds its loan portfolio without deposits, pulling from federal, state, and local grants alongside low-interest debt from banks and credit unions • [15:57] The rise of guarantee programs and how they allow CDFIs to take on higher-risk borrowers without putting the organization at risk • [21:11] Why merchant cash advances are, in Kyle's words, the scourge of her existence, and how they hide in underwriting if you're not looking for them • [22:41] Cash flow underwriting as the next frontier: Business Impact NW is integrating Laser Credit with Salesforce to automate financial spreading and accelerate time-to-yes • [24:28] The SBA microloan program: 40% of Business Impact NW's loan volume by count, the lowest rates they offer, and the most manual work in the portfolio Resources and Links Business Impact Northwest: businessimpactnw.org Related Episodes If this episode got your wheels turning, these are worth your time: 🎙️ Why Most Digital Transformation in Banking Fails | ICBA's Justin Dunmyer (https://youtu.be/IuqVxNO-o18) — CDFIs aren't the only ones struggling to modernize. Justin Dunmyer breaks down why transformation initiatives stall and what community banks are doing about it. 🎙️ Fintech PR Demystified: Costs, Relationships, and the AI Trap (https://youtu.be/9R83ucbGWbg) — If you're a fintech founder eyeing the CDFI space as a market opportunity, this one covers how to build credibility and get press without torching your budget or your reputation. 🎙️ Cringe Valley to Growth Engine: The Power of Video Content (https://youtu.be/8pZcCdm1dnw) — Kyle mentioned wanting to get faster and more visible. This episode is about how fintech brands use video to build trust before a borrower or partner ever picks up the phone. The Propagate Fintech Podcast is produced by Propagate, a fintech marketing, branding, and PR agency. propagatefintech.com | #fintechmarketing #bankingpodcast #fintechpodcast Want to work with Propagate Fintech? Fill out a contact form at www.propagatefintech.com (https://www.propagatefintech.com/) Want to work with Propagate Fintech? Fill out a contact form at www.propagatefintech.com

If I sit through one more theory-heavy webinar with zero tactics, I'm pulling out what little hair I have left. The industry is great at selling urgency. Terrible at delivering guidance. Jazzy Zhu from equipifi said it best on the Propagate Fintech Podcast: "If everybody is saying the same thing, it has no value." The brands winning right now have flipped the funnel. The guide, the webinar, the workshop used to live at the bottom. Now it's the first handshake. Value delivery kicks off the relationship. Gary Vee built a media empire on this. Pat Flynn built Smart Passive Income into a household name doing the same thing. Give first. Win second. Resisting the pull toward quiet selling is harder than it sounds. But that's where the edge is. Full episode available today. Drop a comment if this resonates. #fintech #marketingstrategy #contentmarketing #b2bmarketing #fintechmarketing #propagatefintech #equipifi

EPISODE OVERVIEW Roland sits down with Jazzy Zhu, CMO of Equipifi, to dig into why community banks and credit unions are still leaving BNPL on the table, how Equipifi is helping them reclaim those dollars flowing to third-party lenders, and what it looks like to run bold, human-first marketing inside a regulated-industry startup. Jazzy also pulls back the curtain on Equipifi's fourth website build, their go-live marketing toolkit, and the philosophy she brings to every brand she touches: ban boring. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - The BNPL gap: why banks are missing out  02:05 - Equipifi's mission and who they serve  03:10 - Category creation as a marketing mindset  05:00 - How Equipifi shows up online (and has fun doing it)  10:30 - BNPL evolution: from checkout to full purchase journey  15:20 - The pre-approved, post-transaction experience  18:30 - Why institutions are slow to adopt, and why they shouldn't be  23:40 - 60-day go-lives and the marketing launch toolkit 28:48 - Website 4.0: the full story  34:25 - Why they dropped the bank vs. credit union pages  40:47 - Final take: how to stay a person in the age of AI content KEY TAKEAWAYS • An estimated 95% of BNPL transactions still run through fintech. Equipifi exists to change that for community banks and credit unions. • Millions of dollars are leaving institutions every month to repay third-party BNPL loans. The data is sitting right there. Most banks just haven't looked. • BNPL has evolved well beyond checkout. The real race now is owning the full pre-purchase to post-purchase journey, and financial institutions have a genuine opening to compete. • Equipifi's go-live timeline can be as short as 30 to 60 days from first call to launch, including a custom-branded marketing toolkit they hand off to every new client. • Jazzy's take on category marketing: your job isn't just to answer the question, it's to define the question. That's the whole game. • On the website redesign: they ditched separate bank and credit union pages and let institutions self-select by use case instead. The product outgrew the old architecture. • The "ban boring" rule isn't a tagline. It's a filter. If you have nothing new to say, saying nothing is better than adding noise. • In B2B fintech, people buy from people. If they don't like you, product value won't save you, especially early stage. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "My North Star as a marketer: if you've come in to say something, make sure you said it, and make sure you were not boring during it." — Jazzy Zhu "If everybody is saying 'do you want to grow deposits?', it has no value and no meaning. You could have said nothing and that would have served you better." — Jazzy Zhu "The end product should still be you. No matter how you get to that end goal, how do you stay you?" — Jazzy Zhu TOPICS COVERED Buy Now Pay Later, Community banks, Credit unions, Embedded finance, Category marketing, Brand strategy, Website redesign, Fintech marketing, Personal brand, Customer acquisition, Disintermediation, AI and content, Startup growth CONNECT WITH JAZZY AND EQUIPIFI Visit equipifi.com to learn more about their BNPL platform for financial institutions. Find Jazzy on LinkedIn and keep an eye out for the Equipifi team at industry events. Other Episodes: Clip 1: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9qZqDXlvMYw  Clip 2: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/O1iXwgEkEfg  Clip 3: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kisYKG2_qkw Want to work with Propagate Fintech? Fill out a contact form at www.propagatefintech.com